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Founders — #398 Steve Jobs In His Own Words (Make Something Wonderful) (August 14, 2025) ·
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When this applies
when a founder/investor must decide whether to keep funding a struggling venture they believe in despite years of losses
The takeaway
Deep conviction plus the financial and psychological capacity to sustain years of losses can convert near-failures into unlikely successes, but it requires true patience measured in years, not quarters.
Why it works
Sustained belief in the long-term mission, backed by personal capital and willingness to absorb losses for a decade, allowed both companies to survive long enough to hit breakthrough products (Toy Story, NeXT's OS).
One level up
Overnight successes are typically long, unglamorous processes viewed retrospectively as sudden.
Where it stops holding
This stops working when the funder lacks sufficient capital reserves to sustain the losses, or when the underlying technology/market thesis is actually wrong rather than merely early.
Detail
situation: Both NeXT and Pixar nearly failed; NeXT had to lay off over 200 of 530 employees and pivot to software only; Pixar had to strip its hardware business.
decision: Jobs kept personally funding Pixar monthly from his checking account and pushed both companies to narrow focus to their core even when painful.
outcome: After nearly a decade, Pixar released Toy Story and IPO'd the same month; a year later Apple bought NeXT for $427 million.
lesson: Jobs: 'If you really look closely, most overnight successes took a long time... I can't think of an exception to that.'
In their words
If you really look closely, most overnight successes took a long time. I would say all of them. I can't think of an exception to that at the moment.