Source
Training Data — Rich Sutton and Khurram Javed: Why AI Models Stop Learning, and How to Start It Again (August 18, 2026) ·
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When this applies
when evaluating whether a future efficiency target is plausible given a known rate of technological improvement
The takeaway
Back-calculate a long-term projection to today's required starting point using the known compounding rate, and test whether that starting point is already plausible or achieved — this disciplines otherwise vague future claims.
Why it works
If compute/energy efficiency is improving at a known compounding rate (e.g., doubling every ~18 months), a multi-order-of-magnitude future target implies a specific, checkable efficiency level required today as the starting point.
One level up
Any multi-year prediction built on a compounding trend should be checked by working backward to what it implies must be true right now.
Where it stops holding
This stops working when the underlying compounding trend (e.g., Moore's law style doubling) itself slows, stalls, or doesn't apply to the specific resource (energy per parameter) being projected.
Detail
rule: To judge a long-horizon efficiency prediction, divide the target improvement by the expected number of doubling periods to find what must be achievable today.
threshold: Five to ten years at an ~18-month doubling cadence implies roughly two orders of magnitude of improvement, so a 20-watt target in 10 years implies ~2,000 watts should be achievable today.
rationale: So, five to ten years is two orders of magnitude of Moore's law. It's a standard improvement. If we double every 18 months, 10 years would give you two orders of magnitude.
In their words
So, five to ten years is two orders of magnitude of Moore's law. It's a standard improvement. If we double every 18 months, 10 years would give you two orders of magnitude.